The actual Delegate Count, in a full breakdown.. People, read this. All the way through!

There is a lot of talk about the real delegate counts after a few different sources published various counts, there is also a lot of people wondering about how many delegates are pledged in what I call “The Heart” for various candidates. Finally some of the Trump team are already trying to talk about how Ted Cruz is supposedly locked out numerically and are trying to use this to end the election (lol). I debunk myths, show figures, and break it down for you here.

First we need a source for basic information. I use Green Papers for my initial source of information then expand from it. They are in general fairly accurate, however even they have some flaws such as North Dakota and Louisiana. Their current breakdown has 544 Delegates for Cruz, 144 for Kasich, and 758 for Trump. They have some errors which I will note and source. They also do not cover which Delegates may be bound currently but are to be released and the level of commitment they have to a candidate.

Next we need to cover the errors. Louisiana has 5 listed as uncommitted and 5 for Rubio. (link). In fact those 10 are all Cruz supporters so we have an immediate +5 for Cruz and an additional +5 in second round voting. Then we have North Dakota. North Dakota is “unbound” but we have a number of the Ted Cruz “Slate” which was approved by the Convention. In total 18 Delegates from the Cruz slate were selected, and an additional 4 delegates are capable of being listed as “Likely Cruz” without worry. The remaining 5 are “Very Unlikely Trump” which means they can go Cruz or Establishment.

Then there is Colorado which shows 3 “available” delegates. In fact in an unusual twist there are 4 delegates listed as “Unpledged”, the two RNC persons are listed as ‘unpledged’ and there is a vacancy in the RNC 3 slots. Now due to news reports those unpledged are mostly being tied to Ted Cruz. However Green Papers is not fully committing the delegates to Ted Cruz.

I am going to cover only the States I have factual information for, which means Oregon my home State, despite knowledge of the setting here, will not be included. I am also going to do something no one else will do. I am going to include possibilities if Rubio formally ends his campaign before the Convention and release his delegates. This is IMPORTANT for reasons as will be explained.
The following States allot Delegates either on Ballot or directly take the Candidates Slate: Alabama, Idaho, Ohio, New Hampshire, New Jersey, Rhode Island, Wyoming, Wisconsin, and West Virginia.

The following States are delegate voting upwards States of Interest: Colorado, Michigan, Hawaii, and Missouri.

Other interesting States:

Nevada will recalculate on May 8th for any candidates who have suspended their campaigns. This should result in 21 Trump, 9 Cruz.

New York’s Republican Party has a history of extreme liberalism, where some of their candidates have been more to the left than that of Democrats. I am allotting ALL of the Delegates as “Likely Trump”. This is not the bound positions, but the 2nd vote choices.

Puerto Rico does not appear to have an unbind system, those 23 Delegates are considered bound no matter what for Rubio in my calculations. Tennessee voted in 7 delegates at National that would be for Trump normally. They are still bound for two votes, but are Cruz people (Used as an example of various wins going on).

Trump currently has 763 Bound Delegates and 1 Unbound Delegate for a total of 764.
Ted Cruz currently has 542 Bound Delegates and 70 Unbound Delegates for a total of 612.

Now things get interesting if Rubio drops out. Kasich is presumed to support Trump and Rubio to support Cruz, but it is the delegates that matter. I examined in depth the Kasich Slate he submitted in Ohio. These are pure Establishment types. There is no chance they are going over to Trump. It is in this instance that the Slates matter, and the candidate selected Slates are the most important, followed by Slates selected in Conventions. Note New York would under this go completely to Trump (New York is not yet voted, any Delegates Kasich obtained though would be Trumps).

I sincerely think Rubio will drop out when it is very clear that Ted Cruz has the required wins in the various States to ensure that Trump does not win first ticket and that Ted Cruz has secured the individual delegates (as people) for himself to a level that if released it would not endanger Ted Cruz.

I am only adding the Rubio votes in areas where I have positive information that Ted Cruz has already secured those delegates in the conventions. For example Louisiana, S. Carolina, and Iowa. I concede liberal Hawaii to Trump as well with this example.
This changes the calculations to:

Trump currently has 763 Bound Delegates and 2 Unbound Delegates for a total of 765.
Ted Cruz currently has 542 and 154 unbound delegates for a total of 696.

    Real Numbers: Cruz 696 Delegates to Trumps 765 Delegates.

So Ted Cruz will not be mathematically challenged out after New York.

So we look at a Contested Convention. Interestingly if left intact Rule 40B if left intact would likely stop Trump and Kasich regardless of the outcome of any voting.

40(b) Each candidate for nomination for President of the United States and Vice President of the United States shall demonstrate the support of a majority of the delegates from each of eight (8) or more states, severally, prior to the presentation of the name of that candidate for nomination. Notwithstanding any other provisions of these rules or any rule of the House of Representatives, to demonstrate the support required of this paragraph a certificate evidencing the affirmative written support of the required number of permanently seated delegates from each of the eight (8) or more states shall have been submitted to the secretary of the convention not later than one (1) hour prior to the placing of the names of candidates for nomination pursuant to this rule and the established order of business.

I do not think this rule will be used.

So we need to look at a Contested Convention VERY CLOSELY. In this Ted Cruz has won Washington, Wisconsin, Idaho, Iowa, Tennessee, Louisiana, South Carolina, Wyoming, North Dakota, Georgia, Virginia, Missouri, Texas, Arizona, and Colorado. He is projected to win Nebraska, Pennsylvania, Indiana, Oregon, and due to a fumble by Trump California as well. Trump gets New York, New Hampshire, Michigan, West Virginia.

Now not all wins are total, but it is safe to presume that Ted Cruz is getting approximately 70% of the delegates statistically. This would be 772 of 1103 in the Cruz listed States. Trump has probably got 216 Delegates currently. Of the 833 Delegates remaining it is likely Trump secures New Jersey, while Rhode Island and West Virginia remain unknown mostly. These Candidate Slate/Voted Delegate States account for 104 more Delegates. Between Trump and Ted Cruz there is a very high probability of 1092 Delegates being secured. Given the success of the Ted Cruz team it is very likely they can secure 300 more Delegates off of the Slates which would deny Kasich, or any other Establishment candidate, a chance to steal it from Ted Cruz. Oh and it would win him the nomination.

Current + Projected Delegate Count in a Contested Convention is Cruz 772Delegates to Trump 267 Delegates. Kasich would have approximately 85 Delegates guaranteed.

I see a zero probability chance of a Brokered Convention. I am a statistician saying this. Understand the planet will explode from the inside before a Brokered Convention happens. Have I made myself clear? I hope so. Oh and every star in the galaxy can explode at once before a brokered convention. I really hope people understand how certain I am at this point.

I also declare at this point a 99% chance of a Ted Cruz victory in a Contested Convention. This includes a 75% chance of winning on the second ticket. I also predict an 85% chance of a Contested Convention happening, which means at this point I am predicting in very strong Terms that Ted Cruz is the nominee.

Repeating, Ted Cruz has essentially won the nomination at this point, it would be great if the remaining States made it happen for first ticket in a sign of solidarity.

Now to cover how Ted Cruz defeated Trump for his followers to understand. Ted Cruz has offices in 10 more States/Territories than Donald Trump does. Ted Cruz tends to have 5 times more staff dedicated to an office from the start. Donald Trump has been closing offices and moving staff around to the next set of elections as well (this would have a profound effect in a general election, very bad). Ted Cruz also usually opened an office months in advance of when Trump would open an office.

Ted Cruz also has secured roughly 4 to 5 times more endorsements than Trump. Additionally his endorsements tend to be more locally empowering and nationally empowering. Comparing “Proxies”, my term for those stars who go out and actively campaign for a candidate, Ted Cruz wins at about an 9 to 1 level.

The offices, endorsements, and proxies help win the delegate war. You need to convince Convention persons, people who are activist locally, that you are both viable and in their interest. Trump has no succeeded on this local level with the activists. Trump has run a “Top Only” campaign where he is the source of votes, money, and influence. Sarah Palin for example has lost most of her effective influence and is a poor national proxy. She might be a decent local proxy except she also lost her home State to Ted Cruz. Trump over-shadows his proxies by leaps and bounds and they get very little effect because of it.

Conversely the Ted Cruz campaign gives all Proxies full authority to do their own thing on his behalf, and their effect is very strong. Ted Cruz must rely upon influencing people at the grass roots to get his votes, money, and even further influence. Add the data metrics the Ted Cruz campaign is using, the volunteer base that is conservatives and Tea Party in make up, and Ted Cruz has the most effective campaign in the known history of the World. No other candidate could win versus Trump and it shows just how good Ted Cruz is that he has effectively won against Donald Trump.

Trump lost to the only candidate in history who could beat Trump in this election. Ted Cruz is running a campaign better than any candidate in United States History for its capabilities. Trump should not be humiliated by that

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A shift has occurred. Trump has lost his momentum. Much of it has to do with things he has said and not having a good ground game. It looks like it's going to a contested convention, and from there I don't know what will happen.

I don't think Trump lost momentum. I think Cruz has. Remember, he will not be able to wrangle delegates like this in November. He's doing a good job at that now. I will give him credit for running a systematic campaign. He planned his work and he's working his plan. Also, any momentum he has began with a sleazy voter shaming gimmick and his staff outright lying about Carson leaving the race.

In Cruz's defense, Ben Carson put out a vague poorly worded statement about going home to get a change of clothes (his words). CNN picked up on this and alluded that Carson was quitting. The Cruz campaign picked up on what CNN said and echoed their sentiment, but then Cruz gets blamed for running a dirty campaign for something CNN said first. Anyways you know who I'm supporting.

I expect Trump will likely do well in the northeastern states, but Cruz could do well in California. I wouldn't count either of them out at this point.

Cruz camp never verified it, and if they had they would have seen the clarification tweet that was posted about a minute after the first poorly worded one. I agree with Carson, when he essentially said there is culture of willingness to cheat within the Cruz campaign while Cruz is a guy who has wrapped himself in evangelist robes and nobleness (lack of a better word).

I agree, we shouldn't count either one out just yet. I have not forgotten that the real opposition is the Democrat agenda. I'll vote for the Republican nominee.

In all fairness, Rubio's camp put it out, too. But Trump was more worried about Cruz, so he's the one Trump zeroed in on.  Cruz apologized to Carson for his crew not verifying the information before they passed it on.  Neither Rubio or his crew apologized.  As for Carson, I really liked him and was even part of the Run Ben Run group.  But after Cruz decided to run I changed over to him.  I have followed him for several years and the only people who don't like him are liberals or RINO's.  I lost some respect for Carson because he kept whining about Cruz "lying" when it wasn't Cruz at all.  Then, when he decided to back Trump because he thought Trump had the only path to winning the nomination and later said he wished he'd backed someone else, I wondered if the rumors were true.  Did Trump really offer him a position in his cabinet?  BTW, he said Cruz was his 2nd choice.

Deb, I changed my avatar because I knew I'd get that label here.

In honesty about the Iowa voter shaming, Cruz implied that not voting was breaking some law, and listed addressee's neighbors voting records. Rubio's didn't. But is ok, call me a Rino, I'm still right. I did not vote for Cruz, and I'm proud of that. I simply do not like that man.

Jersey, I apologize.  I didn't mean to imply that YOU are a RINO.  I know you're a very concerned patriot like all of us here.  I just didn't want you to think that it was just Cruz that passed on the CNN report.  And yes, Rubio's campaign did send out a mailer very similar to the one from the Cruz campaign. His looked like a report card, included the person's voting history, and said the voter should attend the caucus to improve his voting record.  Yes, that's not as scary as Cruz's.  But it was still the same type tactic. JG, I know you have every right to like/dislike anyone for any reason and every bit as much right to vote for the candidate you believe would be the best for this country.  Yes, I like Cruz.  I've followed his political career for years and love how he will stand for the people even against his own party.  As for Trump, I find him brash & crude.  To me, he's just not "presidential."  And I can't believe that, after decades of being a liberal, he suddenly changed to conservative values.  But, if he's the Republican nominee, I will vote for him.  Trump is at least 100x better than the socialist or the criminal.

Hi JG,

I'm going to take issue with one thing:

"I changed my avatar because I knew I'd get that label here"

Could you please point out an instance to me when any of the people commenting on this thread called you a name, or treated you unfairly?

As long as you're so right, could you also explain to me why Cruz's statements and actions mean so much to you, but you excuse the litany of Trump's statements and actions, both past and present? 

Now, the NY Values.  Cruz talked about NY values, he was paraphrasing what Trump said years earlier.  Cruz said 'values' instead of Trump's phrasing using the word 'viewpoints'.  Still offended?  Still right I presume?  That's fine.  Me too.  Good thing you don't live in the South, we're always made to look like the Clampets.  You'd never watch television.

Trump, to me, is the same trojan horse that I warned about 5+ years ago.  He is a populist, nationalist and a progressive.  Trump is not conservative.  Trump bears far more resemblance to Obama than he does Reagan.  Believe that.  I am right on that too.  In fact, I will put up a post comparing their rhetoric shortly if I am able to find it.  You can hear it for yourself. 

Jg, I love ya.  We're not the enemy either.

God bless.

That all assumes that Trump does not have the 1237, or win on first ballot. I said months ago, I think Trump wins the primary, and the wipes the floor with Hillary. Should Bernie be the Dem nominee, it's a crap shoot.

By now you all know I do not like Cruz, and will do nothing to help him in this primary. Tomorrow, I'm voting Trump, and have convinced as many as I could here in NY to also vote Trump.

Something I have to note about Cruz. I consider him quite arrogant and very impersonal, and here is part of why. Ever notice that he keeps saying people are 'coalescing behind our campaign?' He's not saying they are 'joining our team,' Nope, you're all behind he's better than you. Or, maybe he says that because he believes some that 'he's just not likable' stuff.

Yeah, it's been really interesting to watch the leading candidate for the Republican nomination advocate for direct democracy a.k.a. mob rule vs. the republican form of government our country was founded upon.  Benjamin Franklin once remarked that they gave a us "A republic if you can keep it."  We didn't have President Al Gore because of the electoral college.  The party apparatus mirrors the electoral college to some degree.  It is worth noting, that it was a progressive that decided to set up a voting process, if the state parties so chose, during/for the primary process.  Voting for a party nominee is actually a recent thing. 

If anything, the delegate process, the way it's been set up, has been a boon to Trump.  He has received roughly 37% of the vote, but has received 44%+ of the delegates to date.  Not to mention the whole open vs. closed primary states etc.  If Trump is really close if/when it goes to the convention, he'll probably get the 1237 needed to be the Republican nominee.  If he has roughly 1100, he probably has a 75% chance of not being the nominee.  Time will ultimately tell.

Agreed. I've followed this stuff since 1980, a bit in 1976. This is, by far, the most interesting primary that I can remember - on both sides.

Going to be very interesting! 





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